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May 15, 2012 1:00pm EDT
administration has provided approximately $165 million to the u.n. fpa. mr. chen as we know was blinded by a severe fever as an infant. and is a self-taught lawyer. he garnered international attention in 2005 when he organizationed a class action lawsuit against local officials who are forcing women to undergo abortions and sterilizations to comply with china's one child per couple policy. there were as many as 130,000 involuntarily abortions and sterilizations performed in a county in a single year. in response to his heroic efforts to defend women and men from forced sterilization and women from forced abortion, mr. chen was sentenced to 51 months in prison on trumped up charges. >>> are corroborating his fears. chinese officials starting breaking in the homes of his family in the same village and rounding up those who have assisted him for interrogations. when local officials and thugs broke into the home of mr. guangcheng's his -- the day after the emergency hearing on may 4th. the chinese ministry of foreign affairs posted on their website, a chinese citizen like mr. chen may apply like
CSPAN
May 17, 2012 9:00am EDT
guancheng on the line. >> emory, would you join us? mr. chen, you are on. >> mr. chen, welcome back. >> translator: i just want to talk to what happened to my other family members. around midnight a group of government led by the local township leader and raided my elder brother's home at midnight. >> translator: around midnight a group of thugs of the local authorities broke into my elder brother's home and just started beating them violently. >> translator: and my elder brother was taken away by this thugs and without any reasoning and then they came back and started beating up my nephew and for -- they use sticks and violently beating up him and then for three hours he's bleeding on his head and his face was not stopped and so this is so violent that my nephew to my knowledge had to defend himself. pinterest >> translator: this attack against my nephew for so-called intentional homicide is totally trumped up charge. and for himself at his own home to be accused of committing this crime of intentional homicide against the intruders is totally absurd and irrational, unreasonable. >
CSPAN
May 15, 2012 2:30pm EDT
week is ago. we do now have shg schen guangc on the line. ann marie, would you join us? >> chen, mr. chen, you are on -- welcome back. [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: i just want to talk about what had happened to my other family members after i escaped from my own home. and on april 26th, around midnight, a group of chinese government, the local government hard thugs led by the township leader, and raided my elder brother's home at midnight. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: around midnight there was a group of thugs by the chinese, the local authorities, just broke into my elder brother's home, and started beating them violently. [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: and my elder brother was taken away by these thugs and without any reasoning, and then they came back and started beating up my nephew, and for -- used stakes and violently had beaten up him and then for three hours, he's bleeding on his head and his face, which not stopped. so this is s
Current
May 3, 2012 8:00pm PDT
is mr. chen and why is the entire world focused on him? is he that important? was he that fundamental of civil rights voice in china. >> well, you gave a pretty good synopsis of what he is trying to do what makes him unusual as an activist in china who has come to the attention and not positively so the chinese government is actually his instinct was to find a way to continue his activism while staying in china. the united states has a long history of -- of bringing activists from china, safe passage in asylum in the united states so this was potentially a revolutionary situation. unfortunately china has reverted back to form. they have been cracking down on dissidents for a number of years since the beijing olympics. they don't want to see a beijing spring, and it has been a very tough time for mr. chen and other activists. he was able to evade house arrest as a blind activist. extraordinary gesture of her rowism. >> the gesture really is something straight out of a hollywood script. you read the stories and say this doesn't happen in the real world. apparently it does. w
CSPAN
May 15, 2012 8:00pm EDT
hospital awaiting travel documents waiting to leave the country. mr. chen guangcheng speaks speechless by speakerphone. this is about two hours. >> the meeting will come to order. i want to thank all of you for joining us in this hearing for examining chinese rights defender chen guangcheng, and a lot of his family and others who have been targeted by chinese officials in connection to this case. this hearing will also focus on chen guangcheng cause. he is among the bravest defenders of women's rights in the world. he descended thousands of women from the most egregious, systematic state-sponsored explication and abuse of women in history. perverse forced abortions and involuntary sterilization per tennis one couple child policy. as a result of his defense, he suffered cruel torture, degrading treatment, unjust incarceration, and multiple beatings. the sheer magnitude of this exploitation of women has been largely overlooked and trivialized by many, and even enabled. the united nations population fund has for over 30 years supported and defended and whitewashed the crimes against women an
CSPAN
May 15, 2012 11:00pm EDT
currently in a beijing hospital awaiting documents allowing him to leave the country. mr. chen speaks of his hearing by speakerphone. this is two hours. >> meeting will come to order. i want to thank all of you for joining us for this hearing to examine the status of chinese human rights defender, chen guangcheng, and that of his family and others who have been targeted by chinese officials in connection with this case. this hearing will also focus on chen's costs. chen guangcheng is among the greatest defenders of women's rights in the world. chen descended thousands of women from the egregious systematic exploitation and abuse of women in human history. pervasive forced abortions and involuntary sterilization as part of china's one child per couple policy. and has suffered as a result of his defense, cruel torture, degrading treatment, unjust incarceration, and multiple beatings. the sheer magnitude of this exploitation of women has been largely overlooked and trivialized by many, and even enabled. the united nations population fund has for over 30 years supported, defended and whit
CSPAN
May 15, 2012 3:00pm EDT
free. >> mr. chen, thank you so very much. we will continue -- this is the third hearing. the first one was last -- last november when we thought you had disappeared. this is the third hearing, and i can assure you as both the chairman of the china commission and the human rights committee of the house of representatives we will never cease in our advocacy for you, your family, your extended family, your friends and the very important human rights cause that you espoused, defending women from the crime of forced abortion and forced sterilization so thank you very much. [ speaking foreign language ] >> thank you. [ speaking foreign language ] [ speaking foreign language ] >> so i want to let you know that i have been praying for you, and your courage has inspired all of our women, and we -- i've been praying for you every day, and one day that this evil one-wild policy will be abolished soon. >> that's okay. >> thank you. >> mr. chen, thank you. [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: i have a final word that i want to emphasize. those -- what had happened to my family and to my ext
WHUT
May 17, 2012 7:00am EDT
chen guangcheng has confirmed to the bbc he expects to be given a passport in the next two weeks. mr. chen has been in at the center of a diplomatic quarrel between the u.s. and china. martin patients is in beijing. >> initially, mr. chen was supposed to stay in china and pursue studies. that deal quickly unravelled in a matter of hours after mr. chen said beijing would not guarantee his safety. the blind activist now says he wants to study in the u.s. that position is supported by a the obama administration. mr. chen does not have a passport, although there has been movement on that front. here is what the blind activist had to say to us when we spoke to him a little bit earlier. >> [speaking foreign language] >> people from the immigration administration department have here. we had our pictures taken and forms were filled out. they said within 15 days. once they get the passport, they should not bother with this anymore. they did not promise the passport. they did not say anything definitely. i cannot look at the moment. my wife also needs approval to go outside. i believe it woul
WHUT
May 4, 2012 7:00am EDT
authorities to apply to study abroad. there have been conflicting reports as to whether mr. chen wanted to leave china ever since his dramatic escape from house arrest last week. we're going to bring you the press conference as soon as she starts speaking. first this report by martin patience in beijing. >> china's police have thrown a ring of security around the hospital. dissent isn't tolerated here, as these people outside the building found out. american officials continue to search for a solution to end this crisis. the deputy u.s. ambassador arrived at the hospital with mobile phones for chen guangcheng, but he wasn't allowed to enter the building. speaking on the phone, the blind activist said he'd been detained. >> let me tell you, i can tell you only one thing. my situation right now is very dangerous. for two days, american officials who have wanted to come and see me have not been allowed in. >> he had angered china authorities after exposing abuses under the country's one-child policy. after escaping from house arrest, he fought sanctuary at the u.s. embassy. -- he sought sa
MSNBC
May 4, 2012 4:00am EDT
activity is what mr. chen did before he was imprisoned for more than four years. he was released last year, only to be kept with his family under constant surveillance in a strict house arrest. his family says they were beaten regularly, particularly when they tried to communicate with the outside world. this is what happened in october of last year when a mcclatchy news reporter tried to reach his house to interview him. watch. >> in a split second after the man in black heard i was a journalist, he lunged through the window screaming and tried to drag my news assistant out of the car. this next scene picks up at what followed. the man in black sprinted back to the silver volkswagen and took off after us. >> 11 days ago, mr. chen escaped house arrest and in a daring intrick cattily planned plot, he pretended to be sick and bed ridden for weeks. on a moonless night, he sneaked past sleeping guards and heaved himself over the first of several walls, injured himself badly during his escape. he hurt his foot and got in touch with fellow rights activists who helped hide him. one told reporters
MSNBC
May 4, 2012 12:00am EDT
victim homicide and suicide, with ties to a very dark side of american politics. police say they believe that the shooter is this man, j.t. ready, one of the country's most visible neo-nazis and most vocal anti-immigrant provocateurs. investigators are working from the theory that mr. ready put on body armor, he entered the home in gilbert where he lived, he killed his girlfriend, his girlfriend's adult daughter, the daughter's boyfriend, and the daughter's 16-month-old infant child before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide. after the shootings early yesterday afternoon, police told local press that they had to wait to go inside the home, the site of the shooting, because of a large amount of ammunition on site, and because of chemicals found at the home. chemicals reportedly including two 50-gallon drums of some unknown substance or substances. according to the local fox affiliate in phoenix, "the fbi and the joint terrorism task force are investigating the military-grade munitions, ordinances and hazardous chemicals and why they were at the home." it's also reported that the chemicals, these 50-gallon drums of chemicals were removed from the scene by the local fire department's hazmat team and by the department of defense. the department of defense? mass shootings are now a depressingly common feature of the daily news diet in the united states of america. but in this case, the alleged perpetrator is a very well-known political figure who has long personified the dark side of a very particular part of arizonan politics and american politics. in 2010, at an anti-immigration rally that featured speeches from russell pearce and joe arpaio, j.t. ready distributed these flyers, flyers saying that americans should put land mines along the u.s./mexico border. the flyer from the event, it's signed there j.t. ready, over there on the left, about halfway down, and it's also marked nsm, as in national socialist movement, as in national socialists, as in nazis, neo nazis. j.t. ready then posted a picture of him and his friends holding up the land mine flyer while standing next to a van from univision. they think that's hilarious, the land mines thing by the -- yeah. that was in 2010. then in 2011, a member of the national socialist movement, a neo nazi was arrested in arizona with plastic tubs full of explosives. when he was picked up by the fbi and local police, he had three homemade bombs with him in his truck. in a later search of his home, they found 12 more bombs. this violent neo nazi thing has been a fringe in arizona politics in a while. including nio nazis showing up at tea party anti-immigrant rallies to advocate for land mines. this kid you just saw being arrested with these bombs he reportedly said were for the border. but also, these proudly racist white nationalist groups openly parading on the border, as neo nazi vigilantes. they did it under the banner of the national socialist movement with swastikas flying. they also did it under the name minutemen. they also, most recently, have been doing the same thing under the name u.s. border guard. the man who is the accused shooter in this mass shooting in gilbert, arizona, has been behind all of those vigilante groups on the border. and he has been in evident presence on the far-right edge of republican politics and anti-immigration politics in arizona for a long time. >> i got news for all the judicial branch too that are in their little fancy black dresses, the ones who released these illegal aliens on our street. we'll yank them out of the collar too and say, we're done. we're going to put patriots back in office. >> that is the neo nazi border vigilante guy speaking there. at that event in 2007, where you just saw him speaking, he's not wearing a uniform of any kind, he's wearing a suit. that's because what he's speaking at is not a nazi rally, it's an anti-immigrant rally. you can see the sign that he's speaking in front of the podium on, the sign on the podium says, "where's the fence?" which is a common anti-immigration slogan in very mainstream republican politics. and at that same event, as he is speaking, this guy here with the circle around him, who you can see applauding j.t. ready is arizona republican state senator russell pearce. here's ruffle pearce and j.t. ready again. ruffle pearce, by all accounts, had a long and close relationship with j.t. ready. mr. pearce actually baptized j.t. ready into the mormon church. this is a picture of them at the baptism ceremony. this was first posted by the phoenix new times, which has done much of the legwork and ground level reporting about the connections between the neo nazis. you can see at the bottom, it's the logo or the masthead of jesus christ church of latter day saints, and you can see from the certificate here, he's being brought into the church as an elder. and the person who's bringing him in is russell keith pearce, russell pearce, his sponsor when he's baptized into his church. when mr. ready ran for city council in mesa, arizona, there were four people on the ballot. j.t. ready came in second out of four. it undoubtedly helped him do that well that he had the endorsement from a republican state senator, from russel pearce. although he didn't make it on to mesa city council, he came in second, after all, j.t. ready did ultimately get elected as a republican party precinct committee man in arizona. the problem, of course, is that j.t. ready is a nazi! and that really should not be compatible with mainstream major party politics. after he game a republican precinct committee man in arizona, arizona republican congressman jeff flake and john shadegg asked for him to be removed from his post. and after his long association with russell pearce, his long, close association with russell pearce, russell pearce too walked away from j.t. ready. >> could i ask you if j.t. ready is your friend? >> j.t. ready showed up at a rally with me and j.d. hayworth, the great fiction around it is went around to try to find a picture they could use. >> if you had to do it over again, would you take another picture with the guy? >> i didn't take it. it's an old story. they made it up. >> do you know his history? >> nope. >> that was in july 2008. ruffle pearce personally brought j.t. ready into the mormon church in 2004. for russell pearce, this is starting to become a very sensitive subject, for a couple of reasons. the first is that russell pearce had his own problems on the race issue. in 2006, he had forwarded to his supporters an e-mail that included a white nationalist anti-semitic screed accusing the media of pushing on an unsuspecting public, a view of the world in which, "every voice proclaims the equality of the races, the inerrant nature of the jewish holocaust tale, the wickedness of attempting to halt the flood of non-white aliens pouring across the borders." russell pearce had sent that out to his supporters in arizona. he later apologized, saying he really didn't know what it was when he sent it along. but the increasing visibility of j.t. ready as a neo nazi, the other reason it was becoming an increasingly sensitive subject to russell pearce, is that russell pearce after having this long association with j.t. ready was ascending to become the most powerful republican in the state of arizona. he was frequently described as the most powerful politician in the whole state. and from that position, russell pearce authored and passed and got signed into law the most radical anti-immigration law in the country, sb-1070, papers, please. russell pearce is the guy who introduced it and got it passed as state senate president. but the guy who takes credit for writing sb-1070 is this guy. he's now secretary of state in kansas, but one sb-1070 passed into law, when he was a lawyer for a group called fair, the federation for american immigration reform. this is the group that helped right sb-1070. fair was founded in 1979 by a named john tanton. for some insight into where john tanton and fair were coming from, what they're all about is an organization, seven years after he started f.a.i.r., john tanton wrote this, "to governor is to populate. will the present majority peaceably hand over its political power to a group that is simply more fertile? as whites see their power and control over their lives declining, will they simply go quietly into the night or will there be an explosion?" john tanton, the founder of fair later wrote, "i've come to the point of view that for european american society and culture to persist requires a european-american majority and a clear one at that." the organization that he founded to accomplish those goals is who russell pearce turned to to write arizona's papers, please, immigration law. that's who kris kobach was working for when he wrote that law. and you know, there are all sorts of radical groups with cockamamy ideas in american politics. that's the beauty of free speech, you get to be crazy if you want to be. radicalism is not a crime. radicalism is not illegal in the united states of america. but when you are not just some free-floating radical with cockamamy ideas that nobody else buys in the world, but rather you are being drafted by the president of the state senate in arizona to help write legislation based on those crazy ideas, and that legislation is becoming law, and that legislation then gets described by the republican candidate for president as a model for the nation, you are at a place where radical has met powerful. and that is a whole different thing. the combination of radical and powerful that is russell pearce and his career ended up freaking out his home city of mesa, arizona. freaked them out enough that they recalled him from office and replaced him not with a democrat, but just a mainstream republican last year. it's the first time any stay senate president in any state was ever recalled from office in american history. it's the first time that any arizona lawmaker has ever been recalled from office in arizona history. but russell pearce did get himself recalled. how'd the state republican party react? they appointed him vice chair of the party. even after his own jurisdiction got rid of him because he was too out there, the state republican party in arizona made him number two in the state. russell pearce is now running for senate again. and when the obama administration sued the state of arizona to try to stop papers, please, to try to stop his sb-1070 law, when that went to the supreme court last month, arizona republicans sent russell pearce to the united states senate to go defend that law. there he is, speaking in the u.s. senate, wearing his "don't tread on me" tie. but today russell pearce is back home in arizona. today, at least for the day, he is not talking about the evils of immigration. today, instead, he is talking about how before this mass shooting in gilbert, he hadn't talked to j.t. ready for quite some time. and local police and the joint terrorism task force and the fbi and the department of defense, apparently, are in and out of this home in gilbert, arizona, trying to figure out if j.t. ready had military-grade munitions and what they can do with them. trying to sort out what's in those 50-gallon drums of chemicals. they're walking in and out of that house, past j.t. ready's car parked in the driveway, with his license plate "usbg," it stands for u.s. border guard. joining us now is e.j. montini, a columnist with the "u.s. republic," thank you very much for joining us tonight. it's nice to have you here. >> thanks, rachel. >> in terms of my summary of that history, let me ask you first as someone who's much closer to this reporting, is there anything i said that you think is wrong or that i should add some nuance to? >> no. i mean, with i think that you described the relationship fairly well. what's interesting is that one of the things that russell pearce often talks about is how, you know, when he finally found out that j.t. ready had gone to sort of the dark side, that he distanced himself from him. but the fact of the matter is that in 2006, before that, the tape of that rally that you were showing, you know, russell pearce was approached by the head of the local anti-defamation league and told, specifically, that this guy, this j.t. ready guy that you've been seen with or hanging around with or whatever is a neo nazi and you have disassociate yourself from him, and yet the very next year he's at this rally at the state capital where j.t. ready calls russell pearce a statesman and he's applauding for j.t. ready's message. so he can't distance himself in that sense. he is -- and what's particularly despicable today, at least to me, anyway, is that he's put out a statement where he's talking about how the news media has been contacting him and they want to link him to this j.t. ready character, and it is just despicable, what they're doing. well, what's really despicable about that is russell pearce playing a victim at a time, a day after there are four legitimate victims found. four dead people, including a toddler. those are the victims. he is not a victim in this. he was an associate of this guy. you own that, you live with it, you deal with it. you don't try to paint yourself as a victim at the same time. the police are still cleaning up the crime scene. >> in terms of what police have said about the crime in itself, it seems like there's no reason to believe that there was anything other than a very, very horrible domestic violence incident. at least, that's the description that i've seen so far. if you could shed any further light on that, and also, on this further detail about what was in the house, there being some kind of munitions military-grade munitions, potentially, in the house. something about chemicals. can you add anything to what we understand about that? >> well, in terms of the incident itself, the gilbert police just said today that lisa maderos, the girlfriend of j.t. ready, was on the phone with a dispatcher calling about a domestic violence issue when the phone went dead. so it's pretty clear this was a zpinls situation that the occurred inside that house. the police found 50 .40 millimeter hand grenades that are meant to be launched, but they didn't find any launching device. apparently they're a little bit older than the most recent model. but they'll be able to trace those and find out where they came from and hopefully find out where he got them. in terms of the chemicals, the two drums, i've heard that there are no solid information on that yet, although there have been some speculation about one of the barrels just containing water and one of them perhaps containing acetone. now, there's a lot of uses for acetone, some of them very bad, but some of them as simple as cleaning automobile parts. and j.t. ready did work in an automobile parts store, so it's hard to say exactly what he was trying to do. i don't think many people necessarily thought of this guy, you know, as terribly intellectual, terribly sophisticated in terms of the kind of things you might be thinking the really bad things somebody might be able to do with this kind of stuff, but you never know. the fact is, they're still a long way from figuring out what all that stuff is for. >> e.j. montini, a columnist with the "arizona republic," thanks for helping us to sort some of this stuff out. thanks for your time. and in terms of the munitions found on site, we've had some different reports. you heard mr. montini mr. say several dozen grenades potentially found. we've also been told it was six grenades found. we're waiting on the local police to find out if there were things in that home that were of note, that may have been connected to something other than this specific crime, something other than just for personal use. and this conflicting report, but we'll keep you posted as we learn more. >>> all right, coming up next, mitt romney campaigning today with governor ultrasound in virginia. we'll tell you how that went and what it means when come back. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is your moment. this is zales. the diamond store. take an extra 10% off storewide now through sunday. hey, heard any updates on the game? 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yes, i do. >> the democratic party today going after mitt romney and his very obviously wannabe vice president, governor ultrasouth sound, and his brand-new supporter, specifically on issue of abortion rights. but president obama himself recently released a video addressed specifically to planned parenthood voters. and a not too subtle reminder that mitt romney said he would get rid of planned parenthood. >> over the past year, you've had to stand up to politicians who want to deny millions of women the care they rely on, and inject themselves into situations that are best made between a woman and her doctor. let's be clear here. with women are not an interest group. they're mothers and daughters and sisters and wives. they're half of this country. and they're perfectly capable of making their own choices about their health. when some professional politicians casually say that they'll get rid of planned parenthood, don't forget what they're really talking about. eliminating the funding for preventative care that millions of women rely on, and leaving them to fend for themselves. that's why last year when republicans in congress threatened to shut down the government unless we stopped funding planned parenthood, i had a simple answer, no. >> the president campaigning there against republican efforts to defund planned parenthood, reminding voters that he smacked down the last big republican effort to defund planned parenthood at the federal level. when he talks about professional politicians who say they will get rid of planned parenthood, he's, of course, talking about mitt romney. but the president is also now bringing up specific anti-abortion policies that republicans have been pursuing not just at the federal level, but in the states. >> these are folks who claim to believe in freedom from government interference and meddling. but it doesn't seem to bother them when it comes to women's health. now we've got governors and legislators across the river in virginia, up the road in pennsylvania, all across the country saying that women can't be trusted to make your own decisions. they're pushing and passing bills, forcing women to get ultrasounds, even if they don't want one. if you don't like it, the governor of pennsylvania said you can close your eyes. >> the president, of course, referring to virginia republican governor bob mcdonnell and the new forced ultrasound law and the pennsylvania forced vaginal probe, forced the image into your sightline ultrasound bill, which is supported by republican governor tom corbett of pennsylvania. >> making them watch, does that go too far in your mind? >> i don't know if you can make anybody watch, okay, because you just have to close your eyes. >> in this political climate, created by a whole new radical republican era of policy making on this subject, the issue of abortion rights is one where democrats are starting to feel less shy. democrats are starting to feel about their political responsibilities on this issue, given how far and how fast republicans are pushing on this issue on the other side. in the great state of michigan, in a congressional race in the state of michigan, support for abortion rights is becoming a major issue between the various democratic candidates who are vying in the democratic primary. the battle creek michigan enquirer reporting that while serving in the state legislature, one of the democratic candidates for this vulnerable republican-held justin amosh congressional seat, one of the democratic would-be candidates earned a 0% approval rating from planned parenthood for his state voting record. that included him supporting a bill to defund abortion providers. he is being called out in the democratic primary on having an anti-abortion, anti-women's health record. being called out by his democratic opponents. that former state legislator is now insisting that his views have changing, saying, "i don't believe in making abortion illegal. let me be very clear about this, i'm in in support of any legislation in front of the u.s. congress that would defund planned parent." it's remarkable, right? republicans all campaign on abortion rights. democrats almost never want to talk about this. but thanks to a year or two of republican radicalism on this issue, this is now turning out to be a key issue for democrats. i mean, this is a democrat with an anti-abortion record that now feels compelled this year to explain himself to try to reassure voters that he's not too anti-abortion, that he doesn't want to defund planned parenthood. we are seeing this as a new dynamic playing out not just in individual congressional races, we are seeing this play out legislatively, in states where democrats are in control, they're pushing measures to expand or shore up abortion rights. in washington state this year, democrats pushed a bill at making sure that insurance policies would still cover abortion services. in california, democrats are pushing a bill to expand access to first trimester abortions. new york democrats are supporting a bill to expand access to late-term abortions for women who have health complications. this is the backdrop for this year's election, up and down the ticket. and this is new. abortion used to be a wedge issue that divided the democratic party and therefore democrats did not like to talk about very much. this year, with republican, dare i say, overreach on the issue, this year abortion rights are poised to become a wedge issue that divides republicans. so the default republican position right now on this is to not want to talk about it. their default position right now is to pretend none of this is happening. this year republicans are the ones who are trying to avoid talking about what they have been doing against abortion rights. and they keep getting really mad that people are noticing that they are, in fact, making a whole lot of policy on this issue, because they would really rather not talk about it. they would really rather not answer for it. but here's mitt romney campaigning alongside governor ultrasound today. the presumptive republican nominee for president, auditioning the guy who spent 14 years as a state legislator, sponsoring or co-sponsoring 35 anti-abortion bills. the guy who this year became governor ultrasound, signing into law a state-mandated medical procedure to be forced on virginia women, for the first time. so how about it, governor romney? are you campaigning with governor ultrasound in spite of his long and radical anti-abortion record or are you campaigning with governor ultrasound because of that record? when asked at today's event if he thinks his ultrasound bill could cause problems for mitt romney, here's what governor ultrasound himself had to say about it. >> no. look, i'm pro-life, romney's pro-life, some people have a different opinion. we've been debating this for 40 years in virginia. people have differences of opinion on that. i believe it's important to support a culture of life, so does governor romney. >> governor ultrasound says that he and mitt romney, two peas in a pod. they are totally in sync on their super anti-abortion politics. we asked the romney campaign today if they agree. we asked the romney campaign today if governor romney supports governor mcdonnell's two-decade anti-abortion record. if there's anything on the subject of governor mcdonnell's anti-abortion record that mitt romney disagrees with him on. we did not hear back from the campaign. every communications provider is different but centurylink is committed to being a different kind of communications company. ♪ we link people and fortune 500 companies nationwide and around the world. and we will continue to free you to do more and focus on what matters. all at 150 calories or less, there's definitely a temptations for you. unless you're one of those people who doesn't like delicious stuff. temptations. it's the first jell-o that's just for adults. constipated? 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ahead of the invasion, one of the countries we tried very hard to get on board with our war is mexico. while we were trying everything we could to woo mexico to participate in this international pariah of a war that we were about to start, while we were pulling out all the stops, flattering mexico every way we know how, offering everything we could to get them on board with this thing, somebody in the bush administration screwed it up. mexican press lit up with reports that at the u.n. some american official had leaned on mexico's u.n. ambassador and told them to hurry it up while he was talking to the press. hurry it up, because america's u.n. ambassador was waiting to talk. this american guy hurrying up mexico's ambassador was reported to have said, quote, who cares what mexico has to say? ah, the bush era. not exactly a high point in american diplomacy. but while we were trying to get them go along with our iraq war, that was especially not good, right? this whole anecdote was reported on today at foreign policy magazine by collin lynch. the star of that kerfuffle, the star of that blow-up, the guy who made him famous in mexico by saying who cares what mexico has to say, in the middle of this diplomatic tinder box, that guy was richard grenell. after the george w. bush administration was out of office, mr. grenell became a very prolific user of twitter, and while twitter does not always bring out the best in people, as a high-ranking former bush administration official, mr. grenell's tweets stood out for, frankly, their immaturity and sexism and apparent lack of judgment. did you notice that while michelle obama is working out on the biggest loser, she's sweating on the east room carpet? just saying. do you think callista's hair snaps on? rachel maddow needs to take a breath and put on a necklace. what does that have to do with whatever he disagreed with me about? i don't know. but given that this was his post-bush administration public persona, it was a little weird that that was the guy that governor mitt romney chose to be his spokesman in his presidential campaign. once mr. grenell's junior high school-style online history started to get reported on, he immediately scrubbed his online profile, he deleted something like 800 of his tweets. weirdly enough, the one about me and the necklace, you can still find that online. he apologized for some of his tweets, saying he didn't mean any of them, any of those 800 he deleted. whether or not governor romney didn't bother to look at mr. romney's online profile or didn't care this was the guy he was hiring, he did pick him as his spokesman. and there was a totally unrelated different criticism of this same guy. but this time it came from deep, deep, deep in right field. >> now, richard grenell is an out loud and proud homosexual. and he is now the face of the romney campaign on national security and foreign policy. >> and that was brian fisher from the american family association. you probably remember seeing him on the show. he has a long history of saying inflammatory stuff on lots of issues, including gay rights. but it wasn't just brian fisher, it was also tony perkins, also the tucker carlson website, founded by the rick santorum billionaire, foster friess. it was also the national review online, questioning whether a gay person could ever really be loyal. they published is a piece saying whatever fine record they compiled in the bush administration, grenell is more passionate about same-sex marriage than anything else. so while richard grenell is being criticized by the anti-gay rights and by other people for something totally unrelated to him being gay, when it came to the romney campaign, the criticism about his fitness for office, his maturity, his judgment, that apparently did not matter to the romney campaign. but the people on the right who hated richard grenell because he was gay, that mattered to the romney campaign. according to "the new york times" today, even before mr. grenell quit the campaign, the campaign was not allowing him to speak. even on conference calls that he had organized. a policy aide to mr. romney quoted as saying, rick, the campaign has requested that you not speak on this call. it's best to lay low for now. when you're hired as a spokesman and you're not allowed to speak, you're allowed to sit on the conference call, but not say anything, you are probably not long for that spokesman job. and sure enough, soon there was a exclusive scoop for a conservative blogger at "the washington post" that mr. grenell would be resigning. the report made it clear what it was that made it so mr. grenell had to go. "although grenell also raised the ire of liberal commentators with now deleted tweets about certain prominent women, none of the sources i spoke with mentioned the tweets as a factor in his resignation decision. instead, the reason richard grenell could not stay on as a spokesman for mr. romney was attributed to a full court press for anti-gay conservatives." for his part, mr. grenell released a statement upon resigning, lamenting that discussion about his personal issues had made it impossible for him to stay on. but he went out of his way to thank governor romney for his, quote, clear message to me that being openly gay was a nonissue for him and his team. clear message? how exactly was that made clear to you? as the right was attacking richard grenell for being gay, neither mr. romney nor anyone in the romney campaign ever spoke out against it. they never defended mr. grenell for being gay. they never told anybody on the right to cool it with the anti-gay rhetoric. they apparently did not even do so privately. one republican adviser telling "the new york times" today, quote, they believed this was a non-issue, but they didn't want to confront the religious right. so you're privately okay with a gay spokesman being gay, but you won't stand up to people attacking him for being gay. you won't stand up to guys like derek fisher in public. privately, you think they're wrong, but you won't say anything in public about this private feeling that you have that you want to be known. this thing that we might be interested in knowing whether or not it's a way we can judge you. when somebody on the right calls for a scalp publicly and you hand them a scalp, that kind of puts tt person in charge. and they know it. this guy brian fisher today was crowing about this being a huge win. quote, it will be a long time before the governor appoints another homosexual activist to a prominent position in his campaign. whoo-hoo! the right wins. on tuesday, north carolina has its republican primary. spoiler alert, mitt romney will win. but north carolinaens will also be voting on an omit to doubly, triply ban gay marriage in that amendment. a fayetteville pastor is apologizing, kind of, for saying this weekend that parents should beat their children if their children appear to be gay. the wife of the sponsor of the anti-gay amendment is reported to have described the impetus of the amendment for defending the white majority, encouraging caucasian reproduction in north carolina. white people can't be in gay marriages, they need to be in straight marriages so they can make more white people. the amendment sponsor is denying that this was his intention, but that's what the anti-gay politics around this is like in north carolina. president obama has actually waded into this state issue. his re-election campaign has said that they oppose this anti-gay ballot measure in north carolina. the democratic party in the state is fighting against it. so mitt romney's taking -- so president obama has taken a position on this. mitt romney has not. whatever mitt romney's position is on this north carolina anti-gay thing, mitt romney will not say. he will not say publicly, at least. what does he think privately? well, i'm sure privately you can rest assured that whatever he thinks privately is something that you'd be very comfortable with. publicly, he's not going to say anything, but privately, be assured that mitt romney agrees with you, whatever you believe. vote for him, for leader. e.j. dionne from "the washington post" joins us next. ife insurans look at you and just see a policy. at aviva, we do things differently. we're bringing humanity back to life insurance. that's why only aviva rewards you with savings for getting a check-up. it's our wellness for life program, with online access to mayo clinic. see the difference at avivausa.com. ♪ power surge, let it blow your mind. 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>> actually, i'm not. i think that their biggest fear right now is losing evangelical conservative votes. if you look back at the primaries, he lost every state when was competitive, where there was a majority of evangelical christians. and i think in that sense, he's in the same box as john mccain was. john mccain was never the favorite of the conservative wing of the republican party, including the evangelicals. and so he constantly had to give into them or to give them something. and i think it's funny. when i first heard this story. i thought he was being fired for the right reason. he had made all those nasty comments about women, including you. and i thought, romney is doing something about his women problem. and instead, he's doing something so he doesn't have an evangelical conservative problem. and so i guess i'm not surprised at all that they handled it this way. >> don't you think, though, that the nomination is wrapped up, everybody keeps saying that mitt romney is pivoting to the center. isn't this his time to take a stand on the anti-gay bigotry and say i am anti-gay rights but i am not a brian fisher guy? i sort of feel like he has room to do that. i don't think the evangelicals are going to flee. >> if he is pivoting to the center, it is still little, little baby steps it seems to me. i think that when they looked at this, this issue was really live on the right wing. where as the voters he is going to pick up in the center, he is going to pick up as economic protest voters for other reasons, they are probably not very engaged in this. i think the one place where this could hurt him is among voters under 30. if you look at recent polls under 30s, president obama doesn't have all of them locked up. he won them 2-1 the last time. i think there are some in roads romney could make. on the issue of gay rights, the under 30s have very, very strong views. that is the one and only place i can see some cost to romney for handling this thing this way. >> we are going to be covering the north carolina issue. because the obama campaign seems clear this is a clear political issue, they waded in at the state level without qualms. to see the romney campaign get so shy about it is fascinating. e.j. dionne, thanks for being here. >> good to be the second e.j. of the night. >> clearly, we are blessed. >> a really great spy novel with really high stakes coming up next. ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about the cookie-cutter retirement advice ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 you get at some places. ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 they say you have to do this, have that, invest here ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 you know what? 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just yesterday, details began to emerge that a settlement had been reached. u.s. officials say that mr. chen told them he wanted to stay in china. he would leave the embassy in beijing. he would not be forced to return to his home in shandong province where no one could help his safety. he would be allowed to enroll in a university near beijing. mr. chen with the american ambassador to china, gary locke, spoke with the media saying this deal was satisfactory to him e was taken to the hospital with american embassy staff. ambassador lock on the right. he was rue eye nighted with some family at the hospital. this all happening yesterday as secretary of state, hillary clinton and treasury secretary, tim geithner, were beginning a previously scheduled trip to beijing than no sooner had mr. chen arrived at the as part of this new deal that the deal ensuring his safety fell apart. he says he does not want to stay in china. he says his family was threatened while in u.s. custody. he did not realize the amount of danger he was in when he said he wanted to stay in china rather than seek asylum in the u.s. he has changed his mind now. he wants to leave china and with his family and with second clinton when she flies out of china tomorrow. from the u.s. perspective, a human rights activist oppressed by his own government and in danger by his own government and seeking our help. from the chinese government perspective, this is none of the united states business. his appeal for help, his appeal directly for the u.s. for help is happening while the secretary of state is in china. mr. chen also called into a u.s. congressional hearing on his case held today, an emergency hearing called on capitol hill to deal with the pressing and time sensitive nature of his case. that's congressman chris smith of new jersey and pastor bob fu on the right, holding a cell phone and translating for mr. chen. >> translator: i want to meet with the secretary clinton. i hope i can get more help from her. i also want to thank her face to face. >> what happens now is unclear. presidential candidate, mitt romney, wasted no time today criticizing president obama for this unexpected almost unprecedented turn of events. he called it, quote, a day of shame for the obama administration. secretary clinton is scheduled to depart china tomorrow. the next 24 hours are going to be critical for mr. chen and potentially for america's future relationship with china. this is what has happened so far. the next 24 hours are going to be really important. stay tuned. now, it is time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. have a great night. >>> the mitt romney campaign moved to virginia today where it was michele bachmann's turn to pretend she never, ever said, over and over, that mitt romney cannot beat barack obama. >>> good morning. this is what victory looks like.
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"starting point" begins right now. welcome back, everybody. new details in the shocking suicide of football star junior se seau. the "l.a. times" is reporting his family has decided to donate his brain in order to determine if he had chronic traumatic ense encephalopathy. the report says the former linebacker's death was a suicide. doctors are unsure whether seau's hard hits on the field let to cte, that dementia like brain disease caused by tough brain injuries that many football players face, someone who is an expert on that is dr. sanjay gupta, studying the topic for years. this morning we hear that seau's ex-wife and friends, even though he was not well-known as someone who had a number of concussions they are saying we had concussions. >> and also saying something we heard a lot talking to nfl players, he probably wasn't vocal about him, even tried to hide them under this culture of look i'm going to play hurt and not only that but if i tell people about the fact i'm hurt they may keep me out of the game. >> his ex-wife used the word he's a warrior. it's not ballet, go back in the game. >> i got a ding to my brain, minimizes the injury. i hurt my acl, people pray for you in the stands. brain injury, you'll be back in the next play, no big deal. >> the family will donate the brain. what does that mean will happen to his brain? >> i've seen this in laboratory called the sports legacy institute. what we're talking about is still relatively new skinz but they'll examine the brain and i've seen what they're looking for specifically the plaques and tangles. you've heard those words associated with alzheimer's disease. that's the same sort of thing they're looking for, they stain the brain, they look specifically for the changes in certain areas of the brain, parts of the brain responsible for memory, depression, and anger, and those are the symptoms. >> so you cannot tell if someone has cte until they're dead, you're able to examine the brain. >> you can't say for sure, but the symptoms which are classic triad, memory loss, depression, anger. now they're vague and a lot of people can have those things and not have cte but those are in conjunction with being a football player and conjunction with taking hits to the head, you put it together. >> when we heard from the medical examiner's office that it was a suicide, many people assumed that, they thought that but everybody wanted to hear is it cte. how long before we know now that the family cleared the way to examine the brain? >> it's pretty fast. dr. mckee, the pathologist at the institute, i spent time with her, she probably a few days before they'd be able to know, they may want to verify so we may not hear for some time after that but it doesn't take that long to make a diagnosis. >> there was a soccer player, soccer analyst for espn and taylor twellman, he said he had been talking to seau about headaches after his own concussion that he got playing soccer and he said seau said to him he had headaches as well. >> it's one of the earlier signs of not just concussions but what people refer to as the sub concussive hits. gets up, doesn't seem to have anything of it but they accumulate over time. it's not just one and another one. they build up and the same thing in soccer players as well, heading the ball, as part of our documentary, 20 gs of force every time you head the ball and they do this over and over again especially in practice. >> if you're a parent who has an 8-year-old who is think being playing soccer off' got to start rethinking this. seau is probably one of the more famous well-known players to potentially have cte. >> it's interesting, and you and i are solutions oriented people. i thought about the same issue. when it comes to football and soccer, if you dissect a season and say where are the vast majority of the hits to the head coming you find they come during practice, drills, over and over again, ramming your head into some immobile object so you see coaches and parents as well how many times does my kid have to do that? maybe we can do helmetless practices, learn how to tackle with shoulders and body pads, use the two-point stance as opposed to three-point, where you use your head as a battering ram to body tackle instead. you see changes in football leading to fewer football blows to the head. >> we talk a lot of it with football players and soccer players but if you were to examine your average person's brain because people get hit all the time or fall off of things. >> it's a great question. i don't think we know the answer. dr. mckee, this doctor who is at the forefront of all of this says it appears to be from multiple blows to the head, not necessarily concussive blows but multiple blows to the head, boxers, soccer players, football players, volleyball players, no sport is immune. >> a tranl difor his family and friends. it seemed as such a surprise to everybody. >> we'll get the answer when we get the results back. >>> a "starting point" exclusive, junior seau's last television interview conducted at a charity golf tournament 36 hours before he took his life, we'll talk to the man who conducted the interview as well as one of seau's friends, dave bieber, right here on "starting point." >>> christine has a look at some of the other stories making news today. >> good morning to you. brown bear, two spotted leopards and pair of monkeys will be returned to their ohio farm today. they were released into the public by their owner, terry thompson last fall right before he committed suicide. authorities do not have access to tranquillizer guns. most of the animals were shot and killed by law enforcement to protect the public. the animals are being returned to thompson's wife. no word on what she plans to do with them. >>> a hang gliding instructor accused of eating evidence after a student plunged to her death. she slipped out and fell hundreds of feet into the woods. investigators say the instructor swallowed a memory card from a video camera on board and the x-rays confirm that. >> there have been a series of x-rays taken. we have confirm so we are in the wait progress cess here. we have confirmed that the memory card is still inside. >> investigators aren't sure whether the card will have video they can retrieve at this point. >>> minding your business a lot of investors waiting out the all-important april jobs report. economists surveyeded by cnn money expect to see 160,000 jobs added last month, an improvement from march but the pace slow compared to jobs gains we witnessed in december, january and february and the unemployment rate is expected to remain unchanged at 8.2%. stock futures trading slightly higher ahead of the opening bell this morning, holding pattern waiting for the jobs report. mark zuckerberg is trying to sell facebook to big investors in its online road show. last night the company set a target range for its stock price, $28 to $35 a share, but when it begins trading publicly later this month that could value the company up to $98 billion. facebook has the option to tweak its stock price as it gets closer to going public. >>> there's time to get a straw bonnet and prepare the mint jewel ens, the kentucky derby coming up tomorrow. they kicked things off with the 56th annual peg success parade. cyndi lauper served as grand marshal. >>> the actual horse race at the kentucky derby is an afterthought. what they want to focus on is all the parties so we thought it would be nice to learn how to make the three famous drinks from the triple crown. we woke up our bar denner mixologist at the "w" hotel in atlanta, known for putting a modern twist on classic drinks and james conley will show us how to make the mint jewel en, the breakness's black-eyed susan and belmont breeze of the belmont. we're looking forward to your tips. carry on, will you do that and we'll continue telling you what's happening for the rest of the morning on "starting point." also dramatic surveillance video in a racially charged shooting an ailing elderly black whom and a white police officer. his son will join us in this cnn exclusive. >>> plus new video of little isabel celis the 6-year-old girl who vanished from her bedroom in arizona. police are following leads to mexico. >>> an effort to annoy. listen. you might be asking yourself why all the blaring and the bleeping and the screeching? 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>> i think the way is now open to resolving this crisis. i think the chinese government has found a solution, and they say chen is entitled to the rights of all chinese citizens to apply to go abroad to study. his case will be processed in the usual way. this is a very quiet, low-key chinese solution to the problem, and i think now we can go ahead and resolve the problem in this whole unhappy 48-hour period of incrimination and criticism and self-criticism can be put behind us. now is the time for progress to be made, and i hope we'll see mr. chen and his family in the united states in the near future for study and rest. that's what he wants. >> it seemed like the dramatic turnaround happened at this hospital in beijing, where he went from wanting to leave the embassy of his own free will it seems to suddenly sounding very regretful about departing. what exactly happened? >> well what happened is the environment changed. you're dealing with a person who's enormously able, very sensitive. he's been isolated from society for seven years. he's a blind man to begin with. he needs all the comfort he can get, in re-entering society, and here he's thrust into this maelstrom, and i talked to him monday for about an hour, talked to him tuesday for about an hour and saw even within that time span understandably faced with very stark alternatives, he was showing some uncertainty, and his wife, who encouraged him to take this remarkable arrangement that has been worked out, she told him, of course there are uncertainties but we should go ahead, we should continue the struggle one step at a time. she's a remarkable person, too. i've known these people for almost a decade and we'll be proud to host them here in america, i'm sure, and they behaved in a totally understandable way. when he got to the hospital, all of a sudden all of the wonderful support he got from his american friends left him. they went home. they were exhausted. they'd been being around the clock for days in negotiations trying to take advantage of the chinese desire to end the matter before the strategic economic dialogue began. they went home, the doctors went home, and he was left with his doubts and lots of chinese police, all around, some of them apparently the people who tortured him and his wife from their hometown, and then the chinese allowed him to communicate with his human rights friends in the community, and based on their terrible, harsh experiences of recent years while he was locked up, they told him, "don't take this deal. it's too unsafe." that fanned chen's original fears. last monday he said "i feel very unsafe if i go out there, it will be very unsafe." i said "then don't take the deal. you're not up to it. but then by the next day he was feel better." >> you're sounding much more hopeful the offer to allow him to study abroad. gentlemen home cohen, thank you, we appreciate it. >>> still ahead on "starting point," it could be the end, yankee fans, with their heads in their hands after their legendary closer was carted off the field and the word is he may not come back. >>> and could it be any more annoying? 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>>> it's just one day 'til the derby so we thought we'd drink in honor of that, so early and yet so not. how to prep your mint jewel eul this morning. anita baker singing "giving you the best that i got." >>> welcome back to "starting point." controversial shooting taken on videotape. first a check with christine romans for other things happening today. >> this just released home video of missing tucson 6-year-old isabel celis. police reportedly expanding their search to mexico. officials are checking hotels, bus terminals and businesses, isabel's father says he put her to bed on the night of april 20th. when he went to wake her up she was gone, the window was open and the screen removed. isabel's father pleading desperately for her return. >> just please, please, to the person or persons who have isabel, tell us your demands, tell us what you want. we will do anything for her. >> tucson's police chief confirms both parents have taken a lie detector test. he has not revealed the results and says everyone is a suspect. >>> the philadelphia archbishop is announcing the fate of 27 catholic priests suspended for child sexual abuse allegations, later today, the archbishop is expected to release the findings from the church's latest year-long investigation. previous findings were called into question by a grand jury last year. former top aide at the archdiocese is charged with child endangerment for his handling of abuse complaints. >>> a person who decided to fire off rounds at the u.s. space and rocket center could be facing federal charges. at least one hit a saturn v rocket on display, a shell casing was found. police aren't saying what type of weapon was used in thursday's shooting. several school groups were visiting the museum at the time. luckily no injuries reported, only some paint damage. >>> the first day on the job for the new sanford, florida, police chief richard myers. he'll hold a news conference at 11:00 a.m. the department under fire after george zimmerman killed trayvon martin. >>> devastating news for the new york yankees, legendary closer mariano rivera may miss the rest of the season after injury his knee, shattering fly balls during batting practice in kansas city, when part of his pregame ritual for more than a can he dade. rivera reportedly tearing his acl. he is 42 years old and the all-time major league saves leader. this could be his final year in the big leagues and it may just have come to a screeching halt. we wish the best for him. >>> finally concert promoters in san francisco using a different kind of loud noise to keep homeless residents away. a large influx of homeless people gathering outside the bill graham civic auditorium prompted another plan tote try to use noise pollution to clear the area. >> chainsaws, jackhammers, sirens, motorcycle revving. >> they hear noise all night long, crank it up eight to nine hours at a time. soledad? >> that's just crazy, and how about for the people who live around there, too? >> it's irritating. >> i'm not sure that's the solution to the homeless problem in san francisco is recordings of jackhammers but, you know, i guess -- it's about to get ugly, not about what's happening in san francisco but i'm talking about the 2012 general election, hasn't even officially been kicked off and already president obama and the former governor mitt romney are slinging mud, no shocker there. according to a new study the wesleyan media project reveals 70% of campaign ads between 20111 and april 22nd of this year have been negative. here is the latest attack ad from president obama which slams governor romney for his swiss bank accounts. >> as governor he outsourced jobs to a company in india. he's shipping overseas, just what you'd expect from a guy who had a swiss bank account. >> wait there's more, there's governor romney's ad which hits president obama for gas prices, listen. >> obama tax machine has started spending millions to sling mud for oil at mitt romney. why? because in the five states where obama is attacking romney, gas prices have ruffle doubled. >> new study claims there are more negative ads airing now than this time in 2008. our presidential race is getting nasty face or is this what it takes to win? eric i'll let you start? >> i think the study included the primary season so of course a lot of those ads will skew the study because they were going off each other in the republican primary. >> that was a nasty primary. >> apparently if you're a white southern male you've got a great career in voiceover negative ads for the romney and obama campaign. >> rake in the cash between now and november. >> if this is going to be a negative campaign season i don't think either wants to lock themselves into policy decisions. either side will try not to be pinned down by the other side and if that works we may be on the verge of seeing a complete change in american politics from where in the past you had to run on definable policy positions and now everybody's like i don't want to get pinned down. >> to what degree is it superpack money? >> i think it's superpack money but during the republican primaries there were attacks on obama and the president so some of the balance is coming back now from the president's campaign. superpack money is something that we're all concerned about. we don't know the sources, they don't have the sane regulations so there is some concern about that and state parties are losing their position in terms of influencing selections as a result of that. >> deshawn, you're home, you're not an elected official, not a political commentator, you, like me, we stay home and click through stuff. when i see a negative ad it turns me off and makes me not like the person who did the ad, not like the voice who is reading the ad, just the whole thing makes me not want to run out and vote. what's your reaction when you see the negative ads? >> i feel the exact same way. lot of times people are drawn to the negativity and we're bombarded with it all over the air waves. with this and even in the programming, i turn it off. >> isn't there a risk this adds to a year in which i think it's fair to say it's going to be a problem? >> that's the point. i hate to be crass about it but both sides are deciding is this a '92 election or 2004 election where you want to turn out your base? your base is going to turn out in the face of negative ads. it's the independents who aren't decided who may sit down and that probably benefits the obama campaign. when you turn off independent voters right now even the gallup poll that came out the other day shows the democrats have a slight advantage in size of base so we can expect a negative season as people are trying to drive out the base. >> i said it was negative and he says it's going to get worse. >>> eight-time grammy award winner anita baker is back going on tour and joining us and her fans have said it's been way too long. >>> a racially charged shooting video. >> a white officer has been cleared in the killing of an ailing black veteran in his own apartment. his son will join us in a cnn exclusive. you're watching "starting point." we're back in just a moment. ♪ [ man ] when i went to get my first new car, my dad said to get a subaru because they last. ♪ he drives a legacy, but i'm nothing like him. i got the new impreza. maybe i should have picked a different color... 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>> it's gone, but you know, it's just for the love of the music. any day that i'm singing is a day that i'm not working. it's not a job for me. >> you have had though some pretty incredible struggles, what i've read about your fights at times with record labels because you were trying to get ownership of the creative process, was it ultimately when you look back at your career all worth it? >> you know, it was all worth it. i was brought into the industry by guys like bob krasnow and the erdogan brothers and bruce lundvall and those guys taught me things, taught me how to get in control of my catalogue and own my master so i can have something to hand over to my children when i'm gone. it doesn't mean you don't have to fight for it but they were very, very instrumental in giving me the energy and the direction to know which way to go with it. >> you've won eight grammy awards, had four platinum albums, two golden albums, a new album in the fall, at radio city, not far from where you are right now. tell me about the new album. i know you dipped in to trying different genres like jazz. what is the new album like? >> the new record is, it basically is very organic and so many people are showing up, we started off with the genius of harvey mason jr., who is a contemporary producer for people like jennifer hudson, and a very 21st century peer group. we went back to my old friend, nathan east, legendary bassist for eric clapton and everyone else in the world, he maintained the integrity of my standard style of music, and then don wuzz has come on board to provide a cohesiveness for, snoop dogg has come to give us dialogue on a love song, you know, the tact that tyrese has come to duet with us and it's a very big undertaking. it's a big mix, and it's taken a lot of coffee, basically. i need my coffee. >> yeah, your twitter kickoff every morning is coffee cup's up. i'm surprised you're a prolific tweeter. does it get you into a new and different audience then sort of maybe the audience that you had 20 years ago? >> well, you know what? what happened is i took last year off because both my sons were heading off to college and it was a time of transition, so i took the entire year off. i had a lot of time to spend with my fan base, to get to know them, you know, getting to know me in a different way, and to just come outside of my box, you know. it's the 21st century, and i want to be here. >> we like that. i'm one of them who said come on now, get the album out, we're ready. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> nice to spend a little time with you, even if remote. i have permission to sing along with you out loud in the shower. >> all the time, all the time. >> thank you, thank you. i appreciate that. >> thank you. >> that's anita baker. so moving on to our drinking segment which is what we've been talking about all morning, tomorrow is the first day, first saturday of may, tomorrow is the kentucky derby. anybody who knows anything knows you're not enjoying the race unless you're holding a mint julep in your hand. 20,000 will be served this weekend. we brought in mixologist james connolly to show us how they're made. there's a classic and a twist on the classic. mint julep 101, how do you make it? >> first of all thank you for having me. >> pleasure. >> you start off with a mint, the most important part. >> fresh mint. >> definitely fresh leaves and here i pre-picked about 10 to 15 leaves and you coat the bottom of a tin, this is just the bottom of a bar tin but i but a official cup. this is a better, i guess, value for the customer. but you start off with 10o 15 leaves and then you do about one ounce of simple syrup, which is just half sugar, half water. you can make it a little sweeter if you like. but everybody talks about muddling between mojitos and mint julips so it's important to press it and get it mixed in with the sugar three or four times. once you have that base at the bottom, one of the essential things about the mint julip is using crushed ice. a lot of people have crushed ice machines. i actually use this gigantic mallet. >> i'll tell folks what's expected ahead. some new developments to talk about as you update you with the blind activist who was in the middle of that diplomatic firestorm between the u.s. and china. we'll tell you what seven-day forecast hillary clinton had to say this morning. >>> also we're all over that big jobs report for april. we're expecting it 8:30 a.m. eastern. which candidate will help politically? is it going to put a dent in the unemployment rate? >>> and the very last interview done with junior seau looking for warning signs in the days before he shot himself in the chest. >>> did you know it's international star wars day? we'll tell you why it's today. you might want to think about it, maybe you'll figure it out. back in just a moment. but we gained the knowledge that priceline has thousands and thousands of hotels on sale everyday so i can choose the perfect one for me without bidding. ooh, my. this one has an infinity pool. i love those. they just...and then drop off... ...kind of like the negotiator. narrator: save right now on thousands and thousands of hotels during the spring sale at priceline. >>> we're following breaking news this morning. there appears to be a possible break in that high-stakes diplomatic standoff between the united states and china over the activist chen guangcheng. china saying today that mr. chen will be able to apply to study abroad and that appears to be an opening for both sides to save face. listen to secretary of state hillary clinton's update on mr. chen. it happened just a few minutes ago as she is preparing to leave beijing after two days of high-level talks. >> from the beginning, all of our efforts with mr. chen have been guided by his choices and our values. and i am pleased that today our ambassador has spoken with him again. our embassy staff and our doctor had a chance to meet with him. and he confirms that he and his family now want to go to the united states so he can pursue his studies. in that regard, we are also encouraged by the official statement issued today by the chinese government confirming that he can apply to travel abroad for this purpose. >> as the secretary of state points out, u.s. officials have spoken to mr. chen by telephone and met face to face with him and face to face with his wife. it's interesting, i don't know if the right word is diplomatic crisis, diplomatic kerfuffle, for a moment it seemed like the timing was going to derail these talks, which clearly it did not do. >> i think it had a lot to do with the relationships that have been developed over the last two or three years with the obama administration and also with secretary clinton. her ability to manage through this, and obviously the chinese officials were willing to have those discussions with her. >> it might be premature to say that, it hasn't actually been resolved yet. >> you know, it's striking, we're in the 21st century and dealing with a growing country, a world power who is keeping a guy under house arrest because he opposes their one child policy. it's just striking. we're in the 21st century and have these problems with a major power. >> we do have different points of view and i think the secretary did a great job in her statement of explaining that we do have differences of opinion. >> it will be interesting to see if the statement translates into mr. chen coming to the united states. >> a guy under house arrest for political reasons, crazy. >>> still ahead this morning on "starting point," the last interview with junior seau just 36 hours before he shot himself in the chest. >>> and new questions about whether those hard hits on the field is what led him down the path to suicide. >>> plus the father who wired his young son to expose the bullying teachers has been threatening the school with more damning tapes. he'll join us and talk about that. >>> and a kid asks governor christie for a favor. >> i kind of need a note for school. >> you need a note for school? >> that would make it an official absence, wouldn't it? well, did the governor say yes or no? we'll let you know. >>> here's eric's play list. you're watching "starting point." we're back in a moment. [ female announcer ] introducing coffee-mate natural bliss. made with only milk... cream... a touch of sugar... and pure natural flavors. coffee-mate natural bliss. from nestle. add your flavor naturally. coffee-mate natural bliss. from nestle. if you made a list of countries from around the world... ...with the best math scores. ...the united states would be on that list. in 25th place. let's raise academic standards across the nation. let's get back to the head of the class. let's solve this. >>> good morning. welcome from atlanta this morning. junior seau's final interview on tape, were there warning signs? listen. >> you know, it's fun to be in a position that we're in. kids look up to us. >> this morning his family is speaking out about possible concussions and also making a tough decision that could help the next generation of players. >>> plus the dad who wired his son to prove that teachers were bullying special needs children. he says there are more tapes, but he's not releasing them. he'll tell us more when he joins us live. >>> and we're 30 minutes away from the big april jobs report. it could move the polls, could move the markets. could it move the unemployment numbers? christine romans will join us with that straight ahead. >>> and yahoo! under fire for fudging the ceo's resume. it's friday, may 4th. "starting point" begins right now. >>> a little bit of a tough turn, wasn't it, from whatever that starting point heavy duty metal music was to one of the women i love the most, gladys knight and the pips, "midnight train to georgia." it's nice to have you joining our panel, we appreciate it. really i'm joining you in your fair city. also with us is deshawn snow, also former cast mate of "the real housewives of atlanta." we have so much to dish about that because i want to know real, sort of real, completely fake. come on. also joining us, eric ericsson, nice to have you with us. it's weird because i feel like this is not our home. >> atlanta is everybody's home. >> yes, it is. >>> lots to get to this morning, including some new details about the shocking suicide of junior seau. the "l.a. times" says his family has decided to donate his brain. this morning we have an exclusive look at one of the last interviews he ever gave. he made one of his last public appearances at a charity golf tournament where he was signing autographs and talked with him fans. he spoke about how he felt privileged to be a role model, listen. >> you know, it's fun to be in a position that we're in, for kids that look up to us and for us to be able to give so much back. >> that was on monday, just 36 hours later seau would be dead. the san diego county medical office last night released the preliminary autopsy findings and they say that the 43-year-old died in his home of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest. the manner of death has been classified a suicide. many of his friends this morning are asking why? joining us in a cnn exclusive is dave biber, a friend of seau's involved in that charity. also tim able, the man who did what we believe is the last interview with seau. my condolences to both of you because i know you were both friendly with him. tim, i'm going to start with you. tell me about the circumstances around the interview. clearly it's a charity event but talk to me about the day and that particular interview. >> david asked me to interview -- do some interviews at the golf event. it was the tim brown and kathy ireland 911 for kids event. we were interviewing some of the celebrities that were there, a lot of the football stars, and junior seau was on one of his final holes and he stopped to eat some of dave's pig, he made a full pig and junior loved that. so he was over there smoking a cigar, having some pig. i asked him for an interview, he came over. he was signing autographs, signing footballs and just the happiest guy in the world. we talked a bit before he went on camera and just said how much he loved kids and being a role model. then we started doing the interview, it was about a minute long, i believe. we talked a bit about what it was like for him to be a role model for kids. he talked about the junior seau foundation and how much it meant to him to be a role model to all these kids. >> let me play a little clip of that interview, because of course now -- you're right, that interview is very brief but i think people go back and look at that last interview. 36 hours later he would take his own life, so look for clues. let's play a little bit. >> whatever you give yourself, there are a lot of kids out there that need help. >> besides interviewing, you spent the day around him. was he -- what was he like? how would you describe his demeanor? did he seem unhappy in any way? >> i found out that he had died and i was -- i was totally shocked. i told my friends that he was -- he was bigger than life on the gridiron and talking to him on the field, he's an imposing guy, a big guy. but he just had -- he was so jovial and happy and kids loved him and everybody was getting pictures with him. i have to say that he was probably the most dynamic individual out there that i saw and that i talked to that entire day. he was over there with david talking about -- david is in about 17 different events with him and they had a much more personal relationship than i did but i thought the guy showed no indication that he would do what he did 36 hours later. >> how about you, david, did you see any clues to depression or unhappiness or any kind of problems? >> we were at the 12th hole and the only complaint that i heard that day was no booties. he was signing autographs surrounded by people. a flurry of activity has always followed junior. he's bigger than life, even in real life. bigger than life on camera, bigger than life on the field and bigger than life in person, which you probably got from the fact there was one guy in the golf cart. >> that's true. let me ask you a question for both of you. the family, as you know, has now said they will allow his brain to be studied so they can analyze to see in fact if he had cte. do you think that that's a possibility? is it something that he's ever, dave, talked about or that you would have experience with? >> not something that i'm that familiar with. however, tim is a veteran and very familiar head injuries, so i would prefer to have him speak to that. i'm a barbecue guy. >> well, i guess for me, you know, the quickness and the surprise of him killing himself is not too far off from a lot of the young kids that i've worked with coming back from iraq and afghanistan that have traumatic brain injuries and ptsd and depression and sleeplessness. it's very similar to that. we have guys who i've worked with and talked with and a month later, two days later, you find out that he's suicidal or they have killed themselves. it's just amazing. it's amazing the similarities. >> tim, david, thank you, gentlemen. those similarities really chilling. i appreciate your time. >>> there are other stories making news. let's get right to christine romans. >>> former illinois police sergeant drew peterson faces a court hearing today for allegedly killing his third wife in 2004. he is also being investigated for the 2007 disappearance of his fourth wife. last month an illinois appellate court ruled prosecutors can use incriminating statements made by both women before they died or went missing. >>> yahoo! getting pretty ugly this morning. yahoo!'s board of directors is now reviewing ceo scott thompson's resume after a hedge fund investor, third point, claimed he lied about having a degree in computer science. third point owns nearly 6% of yahoo!'s shares and is battling to gain seats on the firm's board. >>> probably the most important report in the economy and politics to be released at 8:30 a.m. this morning, the april jobs report. economists surveyed expect to see 160,000 jobs added last month, an improvement for march, but that pace could still be slower compared to gains we witnessed in december, january and february. >>> checking markets, u.s. stock futures hovering around break even this morning. investors really in a holding pattern waiting for that big jobs report out in just about 20 minutes. >>> nerds around the world are celebrating star wars day. >> hey, luke, may the force be with you. >> why today? may the 4th be with you. and that silly pun is reason enough to celebrate. if you think that pun is bad, it could be worse. nobody here in the cnn newsroom got dressed up but look at how our colleagues at australia's network 10 is celebrating. darth vader himself made an appearance on the news desk. >>> new jersey governor chris christie getting an unusual request at a town hall meeting last night from a sixth grader named peter schwartz. >> i kind of need a note for school. >> you need a note for school? peter, it just says please excuse peter from school today, he was with me, all right? >> signed governor chris christie. that is one official excuse for missing class, soledad. >> also it's on youtube if you don't believe me. that's very funny. all right, christine, thanks. >>> tomorrow, as we've been mentioning all morning, is the kentucky derby and here at "starting point" we thought it would be nice to toast the race by learning how to make the different drinks of the triple crown. we showed you the classic mint julep and now we're going to show you the black-eyed susan. james connelly is the mixologist at the w hotel here in atlanta. the black-eyed susan, tell me about that. >> it's the preaknesses answer to the mint julep of the kentucky derby. it consists of rye whiskey, vodka, sour juice. i've got these already in the shaker. you want to give it a good shake and then just fill up a collins glass with regular ice. it has the name because of the state flower of maryland, which is the black-eyed susan. that's what they cover the horse in after they win the race. >> is it as good as the mint julep? >> it's very interesting. >> that's either a yes or a no. >> it's not quite as much of a classic but it is a very delicious drink at the same time. >> i'll try that on the commercial break. >>> still ahead on "starting point," the fat police or the fun police. more schools are saying keep those homemade cupcakes at home. >>> plus the father who wired his son to expose bullying teachers is making a new threat. listen. >> any time i feel the district is not following through in a responsible manner, then i reserve the right to release further information to the media. >> he's threatening the school with more damning tapes. he'll join us live to talk about what he's got on tape. >>> plus an exclusive surveillance video. an elderly black veteran gunned down in his own apartment and the man behind the trigger is a white police officer. we'll tell you how it all went down and what a grand jury said about it when his son joins us coming up. >>> plus the big april jobs report is just a few minutes away. we'll have a look at the numbers and a look at where those jobs are right now. here's christine romans' play list, the theme from "star wars." we're back in just a moment. i love cash back. with the bankamericard cash rewards credit card, we earn more cash back for the things we buy most. 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. no annual fee. that's 1% back on... wow! 2% on my homemade lasagna. 3% back on [ friends ] road trip!!!!!!!!!!!! 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spoke by phone with mr. chen, they also met with his wife in person. now these developments could help get secretary of state hillary clinton out of a tough spot. mr. chen made a direct appeal to secretary clinton to take him back to the united states with her. mr. chen is still being held in a beijing hospital after his daring escape from house arrest under the cover of night. you'll remember he slipped past chinese guards back on april 22nd. he was then drifg ven to the u. embassy in beijing where he sought refuge until this past wednesday where he left for medical treatment at the hospital where he was reunited with his wife and two children. yesterday chen made it clear he regretted leaving the embassy saying he was concerned for both his and his family's safety. and he said he wanted to leave china with secretary clinton. at a state department press briefing yesterday, spokesman mark toner was asked by our state department producer about america's plan of action. >> we're not sure, in fact, what his intentions are, what his goals are, now that he's had a change of heart. >> i
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york university where mr. chen will be steady. mr. cohen, thank you for joining us. how has it been for him to arrive in the u.s.? gretzky is doing very well. i just -- >> he is doing very well. i just had dinner with him and his wife. they have only been here 50 hours, but they are already adjusting. good indeed, 50 hours in the united states. as you mentioned, still adjusting to the new life in america. you mentioned in another conversation that mr. chen is seriously troubled because he cannot protect others who protected him in china. >> that is right. he inevitably feel guilty about leaving, especially his nephew, who is locked up in criminal the tension in their village -- criminal the tension in their village. and others also who aided him when he got to beijing and needed shelter before he found his way to the american embassy. >> now that he is just a few days in the united states, has he already told you what his future plans are? does he still planned to eventually go back to china? >> yes, that is the hope. he has come here to study. he is only 40 years old. he's got perh
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are ongoing conversations happening with mr. chen and his wife and chinese officials. those conversations are conducted by chinese officials in beijing. i cannot give you updates on the nature of those conversations. >> for questions about hypothetically seeking a political asylum, you would have to go to the state department. at the white house that is not an issue we handle. that is a state department issue. the questions about political asylum and how it can be requested would be appropriately addressed at the state department. we are in conversations now. i simply cannot give you a moment by moment update on that, but as we have more information, they will make it available. >> what response does the white house have to human rights activists? those who say it appears the u.s. has left him behind, abandoned him? >> it is simply not the case. he made clear in his conversations with officials in beijing he wanted to stay in china. he was very clear about that, that he wanted to reunite with his family in china and relocate in china, and acting on that expression of his wis
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seeing mr. chen. -- the u.s. deputy ambassador had be a humiliation of being prevented from seeing mr. chen. an american doctor and translator were the only ones allowed in. he has been allowed to to apply to go abroad if he wanted. hillary clinton had been meeting with the chinese leaders to talk about how they could work together. what might make this easier, news that a u.s. university has offered mr. chen a law fellowships. >> progress as a maid to help him get the future that he wants. we will be staying in touch with him. >> for now, hillary clinton wraps up meetings with chinese leaders and prepares to leave. there is no resolution of the crisis with chen guangcheng. there is an opposite t2 and it -- -- there is an opportunity to end it, but will china let him go? >> will of the unemployment numbers provide ample fodder for both republicans and democrats? job creation has slowed for a second straight month. the u.s. economy has created 150,000 jobs in april. president obama said that it is time for the congress to do something about it. >> if we are going to recover all the job
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beaten her following his escape. speaking to the bbc today, mr. chen said his wife was tied to a chair by the police, kept there for two days. china had broken its promise to protect his rights. his family were afraid. chen guangcheng says that china's assurances that his family will be safe are worthless. inside the hospital, he is surrounded by chinese security, no u.s. diplomats there to protect him. he appealed to hillary clinton for help. she was today meeting china's leaders in beijing for annual talks aimed at building a working relationship between the u.s. superpower and a rising china. both sides have wanted a standoff over the blind chen guangcheng settled quickly. the day after u.s. diplomats were congratulating themselves on a deal hailed as a new model for china allowing dissidents to stay in the country, it's all unraveled. this is what was happening inside the hospital grounds. american diplomats supposed to be monitoring chen's welfare were kept waiting in the car park. chen guangcheng told us the guards are prevented them from seeing him. no friends or lawyers have be
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friends spoke to him over the phone and then started tweeting. and she said that mr. chen had told her that he had been forced to leave the u.s. embassy because chinese officials had told him that if he didn't, his wife would be returned to their village where she would be beaten, persecuted, and he apparently feared for her life. what this does is raise one very big question, and that's the extent to which the chinese authorities can be relied upon to live up to these guarantees that they've made about chen guangcheng's safety going forward. >> pelley: tell me, what is it that chen did in his human rights work that made the chinese government so angry with him? >> well, chen guangcheng is really an extraordinary figure. he is a self-taught lawyer who has consistently stood up for the human rights of other people here in china. back in 2005, he exposed how thousands of people in his province of shandong had been forced to undergo abortions and forced to undergo surgical sterilization. that's because local officials were being somewhat overzealous in their implementation of china's one-
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. just yesterday american diplomats were forced to wait outside the building and mr. chen guangcheng said they were not allowed to visit him. in a statement it said mr. chen can apply to study in the u.s. like any other chinese citizen. that suggests there may be a solution at hand to end this crisis. >> now to france where one of the candidates is warning against euphoria and complacency while the other warns against mad experiments with the economy. the frontrunner and incumbent, nicolas sarkozy is at its narrowist. our bbc continue following each and every buildup. katya? >> it's actually quite nail biting. as many people here saying there's rarely in recent years been such a close call in the second round of the elections. it's about economic politics. french people say the economy is number one on their mind and the international market is watching. this is a huge european economy. who will be president will affect the economic policies in the euro zone. joining me to have a chat more about what it could mean is the university's expert. francois hollande is in the lead. can he r
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was deemed an appropriate time to release them. yes, jeff. >> jay, has mr. chen and/or his family officially requested asylum from the united states? >> i can tell you as you have seen in media reports that it certainly appears mr. chen and his wife have changed their views about what's best for him and his family. i think as the state department has made clear in the discussions that mr. chen had with officials, state department officials at the embassy, he reiterated his firm desire to stay in china, to reunify with his family in china, to be relocated and our efforts on his behalf were in accordance with those wishes, to try to achieve those goals for him in our consultations with chinese officials. his views have changed as you have seen reported, but i can't comment on the ongoing discussions that he and his wife are having with state department officials or those officials are having with chinese officials. >> the united states is speaking with chen and his family right now and presumably he's had the opportunity to -- >> again, these are ongoing discussions and i can't comm
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took a turn, after the u.s. officials left the hospital at the end of visiting hours. mr. chen's wife spoke to cnn. >> she is saying they made many promises but they've broken those promises, that friends can't even come to visit us. it just proves that our human rights are not being protected in that conversation. diplomats spoke to mr. chen himself and they say he told them that he's fine. amba ambassador locke says chen never asked for asylum and he was never pressure d to leave. that brings us to stan grant, live in beijing. ambassador locke says they've spoken to chen's wife two times. what's she saying now? >> yeah. this story continues to have twists and turns, soledad. they've spoken to her and she actually agrees that the u.s. embassy treated her husband well. i think where they all fall apart here, though, is the sequence of events. chen guangcheng was holed up in that embassy six days. he told us during that time he could not make telephone calls and didn't really know what was going on in the outside world and the threats that were being made, he says by chinese officials
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u.s. embassy doctor and a translator were allowed in. as they visited, china announced that mr. chen could go abroad if he would like. the crisis has come just as hillary clinton has been in beijing trying to build a better relationship with china. the u.s. university has offered mr. cehn a fellowship. -- mr. chen a fellowship. >> progress has been made to get in the future that he wants. we will be in touch with them. >> for now, hillary clinton wraps up a meeting with chinese leaders and prepares to leave. there is no resolution in the crisis over chen guangcheng. there is an office in a tutu and it, but will china let him go? -- there is an opportunity to end it, , but will china let him go? >> nicolas sarkozy and his hollande,ncois are heating up. we have a report on what could be a photo finish. >> both of these candidates have been on the campaign trail now for months. we are here at the end of the road. it is decision time for the french voters. it has been kind of a bruising and angry campaign. today was busy. both candidates bouncing around the country in an attempt to encourage t
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of law. now, through a translator mr. chen changed the u.s. government. also offered praise for beijing. >> translator: i am very gratified to see that the chinese government has been dealing with the situation with restraint and calm. >> mr. chen was arrested back in 2006 for his work against his government's enforcement of mandated birth quotas and was then sent to prison, put under house arrest in april before he was able to escape his captors arrived at the u.s. embassy in beijing on april 26th which was just days before the secretary of state, hillary clinton, was scheduled to get there for a big economic talk with china. it became a very tense diplomatic situation and mr. chen was eventually sent to a state-run hospital where he remained until suddenly his arrival here in new york. joining us this morning is congressman chris smith of new jersey. he helps facilitate mr. chen's arrival. he has been really working on his case for more than ten years now and was there to greet him at newark airport when he touched down. it is nice to have you. >> thanks very much. >> my pleas
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. secretary of state is attending. with the details still marching as to why mr. chen left the nsc, that will cast a shadow over the talks. we understand he has talked to the reuters news agency. he has repeated he wants to leave the country with his family. certainly the sensitive topic for china and america. the u.s. secretary of state, hillary clinton, will come under pressure on this point particularly as in the past, she has spoken about chen guangcheng's case so publicly. >> the u.s. might come under pressure. china wants to apologize for their alleged role in this -- his escape. is there evidence of the u.s. in this case? >> the chinese authorities have said he was taken into the embassy through what it called at normal channels. certainly the american officials confirmed that and said it was a humanitarian case. they said he was given medical treatment in the embassy before leaving to the hospital yesterday. certainly from china opposing point of view, there is a great deal of anger over this case. this has been a huge embarrassment for beijing. once again it is the focus -
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has offered mr. chen a lot fellowship. >> progress has been made to help him have the future that he wants. we will be staying in touch with him. >> tonight, as hillary clinton wraps up her meeting with the chinese leaders and prepares to leave this country, there is no resolution to the crisis over chen guangcheng. the dilemma goes on. there is an opportunity to end it, but will time to let him go? -- will china let him go? >> this is "bbc news," still ahead -- campaign comes to an end in france. will it be nicolas sarkozy or socialist candidate francois hollande? german doctors call to the ukraine to examine yulia tymoshenko have said that she can remain for treatment. she claims to have been beaten while in prison and is currently in hundred strike at the protest of her conviction. a french court has sentenced a nuclear physicist for his role in plotting terrorism with al qaeda's north african wing. the trial convicted him of criminal association with a view to plotted terrorist attacks. 100 pelicans have been removed from the northern coast of peru. of around 1200 pelicans and 90
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May 2, 2012 5:00am EDT
mr. chen for an extended period. similar to what they did for one in tiananmen square, so i believe the u.s. has ongoing negotiations with beijing over important strategic matters. other politicians will be attacking president obama for caving to chinese pressure. >> just to tell you the bbc activists have seen chen guangcheng's wife in the hospital and she is confirming she and the children are well and chen guangcheng himself is having a medical check-up. we will bring you news as it comes in. >> six are killed outside the cairo ministry. they were protesting. the political tension has come over a year after the defeat of hosni mubarak. what's happened in the last few hours? >> the demonstrators have been outside the ministry for days. they have been attacked before. but not on this scale. these unidentified thugs went in with stones and rocks and fire bombs but also firing with shotguns as well. five deaths are acknowledged and up to 150 people that were injured are now being treated and the deep suspicion is that these thugs were paid by the government to go in and break up the
CSPAN
May 17, 2012 9:30am EDT
abolished soon. >> mr. chen, thank you. >> i have-- >> translator: i have a final word i want to emphasize that what have happened to my family members are just a total violation of china's own law, including china's relevant law about the family planning system. so what they have done is total in violation of the chinese own law so this should be held accountable by the chinese own law. this is what i want to emphasize. >> thank you, mr. chen. >> i think we're close to concluding this hearing. i want to thank our very distinguished witnesses and ask them if perhaps they might have some final comments they would like to make. i do and i say this with all due respect to the president of the united states, i am concerned when the united states government, when president obama was a asked about chen guangcheng specifically on human rights he said no comments on chen and that human rights he said "it comes up." my hope is we're are in a change of our appraisal of human rights in china and perhaps elsewhere in the world but absolutely in china where wittingly or unwittingly we have enabled this
PBS
May 3, 2012 6:00pm EDT
as mr. chen's desire to leave china? including expressing a desire to leave on hillary clinton's plane. >> well, pretty much over the last 24 hours he has been in touch with friends and foreign media intermittently turning a cell phone on that was given to him and he's said repeatedly he wants to leave. he feels very cut off in the hospital and he feels his family's life is in danger. now, it seems to have taken the state department quite some time to get that message but this evening they said they, indeed, had confirmed his desire to leave and they were seeking additional information from him as to how to go forward. >> what is his status? he's not simply a patient in a hospital, presumably. is he a prisoner? is that clear at all? >> it's not terribly clear. he's not confined to the hospital. he seems to be unable to leave. the state department said that officials had spoken with him by phone twice today. his wife and two children who joined him upon his release in the hospital yesterday, his wife has been able to come out and meet with u.s. officials to talk about the family's
MSNBC
May 3, 2012 12:00pm EDT
. >> well, understand that mr. chen was trying to do something that was unique without precedent. normally the united states tries to work to bring activists out of china where they feel they are threatened. mr. chen specifically had the united states negotiate with china. he wanted to be reunited with his family, he wanted to be relocated to a safer place, he wanted to be able to study the law, and he wanted to continue his work to try to expand civil society within china. now i think 24 hours later it appears he has a change of heart. he now believes that china will not live up to the terms of its agreement. the united states officials as i understand it talking to them this morning are trying to reach mr. chen so they can ascertain if he's had a change of heart and obvious the course will take its own course depending on what he tells them. unfortunately, the chinese officials are preventing that from happening. >> that's the question. how much can we do now that he's no longer in u.s. custody. i thought it was interesting after this new information that chen guangcheng wants to leave t
MSNBC
May 4, 2012 7:00am PDT
situation at a press conference just a couple of hours ago. >> all of our efforts with mr. chen have been guided by his choices and our values. and i'm pleased that today our ambassador has spoken with him again. our embassy staff and our doctor had a chance to meet with him. and he confirms that he and his family now want to go to the united states so he can pursue his studies. >> but the administration's handling of mr. chen's situation has become political fodder for candidate mitt romney. listen to what he had to say -- >> our embassy failed to put in place the verifiable measures that would ensure the safety of mr. chen and his family. if these reports are true, this is a dark day for freedom and it's a day of shame for the obama administration. we are a place of freedom. here and around the world and we should stand up and defend freedom wherever it is under attack. >> in fact, the chinese government now says they will accept mr. chen's plection for travel documents but there is no telling how long that process could take. pull on those gardening gloves. and let's see how color
MSNBC
May 4, 2012 10:00am EDT
administration's handling of mr. chen's situation has become political fodder for candidate mitt romney. listen to what he had to say -- >> our embassy failed to put in place the verifiable measures that would ensure the safety of mr. chen and his family. if these reports are true, this is a dark day for freedom and it's a day of shame for the obama administration. we are a place of freedom. here and around the world and we should stand up and defend freedom wherever it is under attack. >> in fact, the chinese government now says they will accept mr. chen's plection for travel documents but there is no telling how long that process could take. pull on those gardening gloves. and let's see how colorful an afternoon can be. with certified advice to help us expand our palette... ...and prices that give us more spring per dollar... ...we can mix the right soil with the right ideas. ...and bring even more color to any garden. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. lay down a new look, with earthgro mulch, now three bags for just $10. hi, i just switched jobs, and
CNN
May 25, 2012 2:00am PDT
security officers who broke into his house while searching for mr. chen. i talked to mr. chen about the years he spent in a chinese prison. he spent about four years and three months in a chinese prison. and also about the nearly two years that he was in home detention. here's what he said. when you were released, you were under house arrest. what was that like? >> translator: let me correct one thing here. when we talk about my situation in the future, let's not use the word house arrest, but instead, let's use the term illegal detention. it's hard for me to describe what it was like during the time, but let's just say my suffering was beyond imagination. >> did you feel like there was an end to it? did it feel like it was just going to go on and on? >> translator: i didn't see much hope. >> mr. chen originally was arrested in china back in 2006 after filing a class-action lawsuit. he and his wife are basically self-taught attorneys. his wife, because mr. chen is blind, his wife read to him from legal textbooks and he kind of learned the law and filed this lawsuit on behalf of women in
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